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The New Reason

Post by MrTwig » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:24 pm

Hi there! I have a new reason to revisit all of daniel's papers.

How many of us have actually read all, and I mean All, of his references. For me it was a time problem to fit it into my "normal" life and a space problem in how to fit it all together so that I could refer to it as needed. I have to admit that I have tried reluctantly (like an investigator) to read this or that book of D.B.Larson only to just get little out of it. There is a point where information "clicks" and you get it and understand the idea or thought that is being relay through a discourse. If I reference something like Wikipedia or a science paper and believe fully with my heart that it is true but it is false, there is a resistance to change. It will come about eventually, the change, but not without work. What I am trying to say is it a long and drawn out process to change you mind or belief system. It take commitment and a basic need for the truth at all costs.

As of now I can not say that any of Larson's book are completed. I have read all of daniel's paper but as time goes on there is a need to reread just to keep it fresh. I would guess that nobody, except maybe bruce, know what daniel knows. Everyday I find new ways to squeeze something out of the sites and read something. It seems to be working for me. How do you handle it? Where are you at?
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Re: The New Reason

Post by animus » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:58 am

MrTwig wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:24 pm
If I reference something like Wikipedia or a science paper and believe fully with my heart that it is true but it is false, there is a resistance to change. [...] What I am trying to say is it a long and drawn out process to change you mind or belief system.
It gets easier over time and you will learn to let go of false information faster and faster.
Try to see a world view as a jigsaw puzzle with the various beliefs within the world view as pieces of the puzzle. The strong held beliefs which shape the basis of the world view are placed in the center (e.g. reincarnation is a lie, demons don't exist, etc.) and the more uncertain beliefs which don't necessarily affect the world view as a whole are placed more outwards (e.g. were the Apollo missions legit or not?). Usually you will be more inclined to accept changes to the outer puzzle pieces as long as your center pieces are still holding together. But the more outer pieces you change the more it will affect the interior: An important interior piece might not fit with a newly found neighboring piece anymore, which then necessitates a small modification in the interior, too. This in turn could lead to a complete change of every single center piece and consequently the whole big picture altogether. Letting go of the very first strong held belief and replacing it is probably the hardest. However, if the picture is getting clearer by doing so, it will get easier with every following center piece.

What the RS/RS2 research has done was flipping quite a number of pieces from their backside to their front and getting rid of a whole lot of them altogether, as they didn't belong to the puzzle at all. It became obvious that most didn't fit with one another and were simply glued together by the cheater elite. And now that a new center has developed, the fitting pieces are so much easier to recognize. There is still a huge pile of pieces to go through and nobody knows how big the picture actually is. Sometimes, nature gives you a glimpse of a piece, so that you can search for it more easily. But you still need to do the work of finding it as well as flipping and rotating it the right way.

Everyday I find new ways to squeeze something out of the sites and read something. It seems to be working for me. How do you handle it? Where are you at?
In the (un)learning phase of course, where else? :)
Most of what I have read in the last decade came from the alternative media, so naturally I got my fair share of disinformation. Nonetheless I did learn a lot! One thing was for sure: there are lies in every direction. And I have learned that it is best to hear out both (or more) sides of a story. As daniel said in another thread, consider any perspective on things, even if you believe the exact opposite. So the "what if" approach was the way to go.
My hardest hurdle was letting go of the scientific/material mindset and opening up to the religious and spiritual side, as it went against everything I believed in. I didn't mind reading about it, I had a great thirst for information of all kinds, so I read everything that I considered interesting. I just never believed most of it. It changed after watching the videos from Michael Wynn (hollywoodinsiders), in particular "The Soul Travelers". I spare you the link because I wouldn't recommend it anymore (also, it is a 5 hour video) but at that time it was just what I needed to advance. Usually, I only scratched topics by watching some videos or reading some articles or short pdfs about it -- the typical conspiracy theorist. But my skimming over the topics got me very far, since I didn't waste too much time on possible disinformation and could also cover a broader range of it.
I took the what if approach to the extreme when I was willing to consider that time travel was real! What an absolutely ridiculous assumption, or so I thought. Next topics on the list were the hologram-universe and the flat earth (found some evidence the year before, i.e. the year before the flat earth craze began). Well those two went waaay down the priority list because, luckily, only a day or two after looking into time travel, I was introduced to daniel's Geoengineering paper - and I was hooked! Still am. I resonated with the papers on so many levels and I knew, or should I say felt, that they were just what I was looking for. The fact that the papers themselves encouraged trusting one's intuition reinforced the feeling to have found the right thing all the more.

I do follow some of daniel's references when I have the time. I also try to (superficially) cross check them with what I find on my own. But the list is long! The papers are covering a lot of information from all kinds of fields. And I agree, it is time consuming - but so far worth it all the way.
I also watched most of the cited series (Doctor Who, Babylon 5, Stargate and Battlestar Galactica) to understand the comparisons and jokes in some of the RS explanations. Next one will be the original version of the Tomorrow People. (I've only seen the latest one which should have been titled The Leather Jacket People). You can't escape ending up as a Sci-Fi fan after all this, though it has its limits. I tried reading Flatland a few months ago but a few chapters in, it got rather tiresome. A chinese friend recommended The Three-Body Problem when I told him about the RS two years ago. Now that book 2 and 3 also have been translated into English (even put into audiobooks) I will probably start with this trilogy.

Although it has already been two and a half years (amazing, how time flies), I still haven't read anything from Larson yet. Before doing so I want to first read up on Psychology and dream analysis and finally start digging in my own psyche. Or more aptly put, finding out what digging in one's own psyche actually means. Psychocartography seems to be the key and I like the idea of having my own dreamscape mapped out and using it consciously as a new playground for further development - sounds like fun! Curiously, in my time as a lazy student, where I could sleep in every day (I seldom went to any lectures), I experienced lucid dreams more frequently than I do now, although I am still not using any alarm clock and sleep as long as I want. Not sure if this is progress or the contrary. I did have some memorable dreams though, even one with a complete new feeling which I have never felt before (unfortunately on the negative side). So yeah, it could be progress after all.

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Re: The New Reason

Post by MrTwig » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:19 pm

animus wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:58 am

Although it has already been two and a half years (amazing, how time flies), I still haven't read anything from Larson yet. Before doing so I want to first read up on Psychology and dream analysis and finally start digging in my own psyche. Or more aptly put, finding out what digging in one's own psyche actually means. Psychocartography seems to be the key and I like the idea of having my own dreamscape mapped out and using it consciously as a new playground for further development - sounds like fun! Curiously, in my time as a lazy student, where I could sleep in every day (I seldom went to any lectures), I experienced lucid dreams more frequently than I do now, although I am still not using any alarm clock and sleep as long as I want. Not sure if this is progress or the contrary. I did have some memorable dreams though, even one with a complete new feeling which I have never felt before (unfortunately on the negative side). So yeah, it could be progress after all.
This is Amazing! Thank you so much for your response.
I have tried to organize daniel's papers and articles in a neat and logical order for myself. There is no right way or wrong way to place them. Each has a view point that requires stepping back and taking in the whole picture. By the way, Larson is not easy to read for me because it is basically written for a Scientist or a professional student type. I am still working my way through it and finding it somewhat enlightening. One point I found out is that of the Universe that we can see it is consistent and not as I imagined as a "system" within a vast black space that is void except for stuff we call galaxies or matter. As far as we can see or sense with instruments is filled with something. So much for one point in space that went Bang!
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