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first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by trippingthelight » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:38 pm

Hi Everyone,

By pure luck I discovered daniels papers, this website and antiquatis, searching for 'lough derg' in Ireland after hearing Max Spiers talk about stargates there, 'The colonization of Tiamet' PDF was literally on the last page of google results as the PDF mentions in relation to the Inner Earth. So thankful i went to the last page!!!

I have been digging around trying to find the 'truth' for 9 months now and have uncovered some unsettling things as you can imagine! The past few months have been looking into the flat earth, As I found flat earth fairly early in my research through youtube I wasn't fully aware that 'they' purposely release psy ops confuse, once realized, I felt uncomfortable having a convenient flat earth 'fact's and 'map' seemingly coming out of nowhere (obviously pushed by youtube and Obama!) complete with convenient 'easter eggs' in movies over the last 30 years. So as i am now beginning to understand how 'they' work I can only see flat earth as what appears to be a distraction that has been prepped for decades if not longer. Flat earch has been accepted by a LOT of people now online and I do wonder what the purpose of this is.

daniels papers are simply fantastic and have blown me away for sure, but naturally have a million questions and doubts.

- Are NASA deliberately making things look fake as a kind of double bluff?? their footage seriously looks bad and the whole CGI fakery that goes on, the moon landings were obvious fakes? where do all those sideways rockets go?

- is there any mainstream mis inforrmation of dinosaurs then apart from the timeline? 'flat earther' have no doubt it was all a hoax. but these things seem to far fetched to be fully hoaxes. were they dragons? or some product of an error in manipulating our DNA?

- what about evolution? again 'flat earthers' say its all a hoax, but daniels papers seem to agree with evolution up to the neanderthal, again is it just timelines that have been manipulated to appear 'too big to comprehend so it must be real'?

- flat earth is full of biblical references, and is probably turning a lot of people to the bible and Jesus, after having read daniels papers maybe this is to convert athiests to christianity in preparation for the oncoming christian/islam 'battle' in europe after the 'light show'?? just a thought.

- to follow on from project bluebeam, this is being pushed by the 'flat earthers' as an alien invasion quite heavily, surely if millions of people are now aware of it, it is probably not going to happen? and again is a distraction?

- David icke really wasn't far of the truth then is he? but he's almost the first port of call for anyone researching so why allow a large part of the truth out at Door 1? I am aware of gate keepers, but he's like the gatekeeper that lets you have a peek through the gate! Although his view is we were already highly evolved and got dumbed down.

- I immediately watched the old 'journey to the centre of the earth' after reading the papers, are there any theories about who/what is inside? Are we talking giant reptiles like the movie!

so sorry, I am new to this game and apologies for any schoolboy questions, please feel free to ignore or reply to as many or as few of these as you wish! It's just my thoughts pressing the keys.

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Re: first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by Ilkka » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:49 am

I think that in some of your questions there are already answers in somewhere on this or antiquus forums. It would be quite time costly to search all though.

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Re: first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by animus » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:00 pm

Welcome to the forum, trippingthelight. For someone who has been looking for the "truth" for only 9 months you certainly found the RS papers way faster than I did. I, too, had my mind blown when I read them for the first time and your post reminds me a lot of all the dot-connecting that I did afterwards. I can't really comment on the flat earth topic. I only took a quick peak at it in fall or winter of 2014. That was right before the "uprising" when there wasn't so much information available, yet. I haven't touched it since and as you said it very much appears to be a distraction, so no regret there. But I think I'm going to take a look at the movie references, sounds entertaining! (edit: it wasn't, not sure what I expected.)

The only thing I liked about the flat earth movement was that it opened people up and got them out of their comfort zone with a 180° turn in their thinking. Also NASA took a good beating, albeit self-inflicted and therefore controlled to a certain degree. Somebody who is willing to make a 180° turn is likely to do it again if his further development requires it. This brings me to another bullet point of yours. People resonated with David Icke's 7h talk because he addressed the emotional burden in them that many didn't even know they had accumulated over the years. They notice lies, get distracted and eventually forget about them, like in the LEGO movie's TV scene. The result of his talk was that many turned to the alternative media. And if you noticed, the fear mongerering in the alt. media is even more prevalent than in the mainstream media. But since those people have been introduced to a completely new world view they will be willing to explore it further on and will be adjusting their thinking to their findings each time. You can't go back after all. It's just this first big turn to the other direction that is the hardest blockage. After that, you can enjoy peeling the onion.
So yeah, David Icke is likely just on of many gatekeepers, but you CAN learn from him, especially when you reflect on how he made you feel.

Concerning the christianity vs. islam dichotomy I would say that it is just one of many that media will always reinforce, be it men/women, young/old, rich/poor, natives/foreigners, smokers/non-smokers, left wing/right wing, fat/skinny, homo/ hetero and whatever you have these days... It is not difficult to see through it, as it becomes rather obvious over the years. Many have seen through it but, sadly, they still engage in it. People are lazy and don't want to do the work themselves, so they rather just whine about the situation at hand. And there is always something to whine about. However, I doubt there will ever be a big light show in the sky with a subsequent religious "war". There is no need for that because so far media does a fine job in keeping the "battle" going. So why bring it to a climax when either folk is still kept busy this way.


Apropos christians, this morning after work when it was still dark and no one was outside except a few cars, I was crossing the street to the other sidewalk where only an elderly woman walked on. I was dressed completely in black and had the hood on my head. Since I'm a lots-of-stuff-to-do & no-time-to-waste kind of guy, I was heading home with a good walking pace and a determined look on my face. Right when I walked by her I gave her a friendly "good morning" with a good smile, as is common courtesy, and in that moment I noticed that she did the sign of the cross on her chest as if I was about to rob her. I could almost hear the relief in her "good morning" right behind me :) Thank God I didn't rob her.


TTL, since you have already found out about psyops yourself, the next step would be to learn about the various tactics and methods which forum & social network spies use to instill the false information into people's head. I'd recommend this thread from another forum. Also make sure to check out the analysis on 9/11 from the forum's admin if you haven't already. Well worth the while!

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Re: first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by daniel » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:31 pm

trippingthelight wrote:daniels papers are simply fantastic and have blown me away for sure, but naturally have a million questions and doubts.
Thanks... be sure to tell your friends!
trippingthelight wrote:- Are NASA deliberately making things look fake as a kind of double bluff?? their footage seriously looks bad and the whole CGI fakery that goes on, the moon landings were obvious fakes? where do all those sideways rockets go?
When I was at Montauk, the buzz was that we did somehow get to the moon and were met by "others"--and told to "go home and don't come back." I also recall that they hired a number of psychics in order to remote view the moon to see what was going on there--apparently, a busy place.

Like most big corporations, NASA will do whatever it takes to keep the money flowing in. They do whatever they want--it's not like private citizens are going to fly out to Mars and bring back real pictures. Heck, the best that non-military rockets have done is about 72 miles up.

But when you start finding Photoshopped images covering NASA websites--with no mention of it--it really makes you suspect their motives.
trippingthelight wrote:- is there any mainstream mis inforrmation of dinosaurs then apart from the timeline? 'flat earther' have no doubt it was all a hoax. but these things seem to far fetched to be fully hoaxes. were they dragons? or some product of an error in manipulating our DNA?
In the Apocrypha (religious texts no considered to be part of formal religions), it describes angels as doing some strange things... being about the high of a man, but flying around "biting" him and making him sick, so that one of the servants of God would have to heal them--if they accepted God into their life (other choice is to die). They had significant wingspans and wore a "single-pointed crown."

I got thinking about it one day and noticed that angels have a remarkable similarity between those old descriptions of angels and a pteranadon.

Then you start noticing that the "gods" (the Annunaki) were often described as being hideous giants--12-20 feet in height with a large, heavy tail and "horny skin." Could it be that Jehovah was actually a T-rex?

I've never found enough information to come to any firm conclusions, but since we've only found about 3000 dinosaur skeletons, worldwide, they may have been something "else."
trippingthelight wrote:- what about evolution? again 'flat earthers' say its all a hoax, but daniels papers seem to agree with evolution up to the neanderthal, again is it just timelines that have been manipulated to appear 'too big to comprehend so it must be real'?
Evolution up to the Neanderthal was a natural consequence of life, here on Tiamat. Man, however, was genetically engineered by the ANNUNAKI (specifically ENKI and NINHURSAG) as a slave race to serve the gods. The "missing link" exists because man is NOT a natural development of life (humans only share about 4-10% of their genetic code with Neanderthals--I think we have more in common with cattle). And all this is RECENT--man was engineered circa 4000 BC, just like the line of heredity of the Bible indicates. Though if you read the Book of Jubilees, they do note that Adam was only 8 years old when he left the Garden--but a fully-formed man able to work the land, reproduce and keep records of his lineage. Does that "add up?"
trippingthelight wrote:- flat earth is full of biblical references, and is probably turning a lot of people to the bible and Jesus, after having read daniels papers maybe this is to convert athiests to christianity in preparation for the oncoming christian/islam 'battle' in europe after the 'light show'?? just a thought.
At one time, that was "the Plan," but they found a much simpler route through a little device known as a "smartPhone." I did a blog entry on it at one time:
Life, the Universe and Digital Society.

War is VERY profitable to the New World Order, so they will probably set up one more big one to cash in, then just robotize the survivors with technology--much like the Daleks did when they invaded Earth in 2150.
trippingthelight wrote:- to follow on from project bluebeam, this is being pushed by the 'flat earthers' as an alien invasion quite heavily, surely if millions of people are now aware of it, it is probably not going to happen? and again is a distraction?
Really... what alien species in their right mind would actually WANT this planet?? Heavily polluted waters and air, chemically screwed up soil and a very hostile local population. What does Earth offer, outside of 7 billion "To Serve Mankind" to the Macrobes?

The BlueBeam technology can be used to fake an invasion, which they probably only need if people actually get off the couch and rebel against the ruling body. They have phasers and photon torpedoes--far more effective than the faked nuclear bombs.
trippingthelight wrote:- David icke really wasn't far of the truth then is he? but he's almost the first port of call for anyone researching so why allow a large part of the truth out at Door 1? I am aware of gate keepers, but he's like the gatekeeper that lets you have a peek through the gate! Although his view is we were already highly evolved and got dumbed down.
I'm not familiar with the term, "Gate Keepers" in the context you are using, which I assume is something from the New Age?
trippingthelight wrote:- I immediately watched the old 'journey to the centre of the earth' after reading the papers, are there any theories about who/what is inside? Are we talking giant reptiles like the movie!
If the ANNUNAKI turn out to be dinosaurs--then there could be giant reptiles in the Earth. Though I think "amphibians" would be more appropriate.

I suspect that what is inside is exactly what is described by various non-Christian religions and mythology--human souls in Hades and the rebel base camp in Agartha. It was all taken as fact, up until a couple hundred years ago.
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Re: first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by animus » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:01 pm

daniel wrote:I'm not familiar with the term, "Gate Keepers" in the context you are using, which I assume is something from the New Age?
Footnotes from my German thread:
** To find out whether site admins, forum members et al. are disinformationalists, just ask for their position on the SC-research, see link above; other words for such liars and group of liars are: dupe, shill, hoax, gatekeeper, disinfo-agent, spook, stooge, mole, controlled opposition, limited hangout, feds or just simply clown; in Sabrina's words: "...a big fat liar! He’s a fake, a phony, a con, a cheater, a chiseler, a bamboozler, a swindler. He’s bunco, bogus...", S05E07.
*** Excerpt from "Behavioural Science Support for JTRIG’s Effects and Online HUMINT Operations", p. 8: Generally, the language of JTRIG’s operations is characterised by terms such as "discredit", promote "distrust", "dissuade", "deceive", "disrupt", "delay", "deny", "denigrate/degrade" and "deter."


In a sea full of liars a gatekeeper is just one of the bigger fish that tends to have a good flock of followers, whose movement he always keeps in a certain direction. Or in other words, he stands before the gate and doesn't let you in (on the secrets).
Oh and here's another fitting d-verb: defame

edit: the following is from wikipedia:
  • Gatekeeping is the process of culling and crafting countless bits of information into the limited number of messages that reach people every day, and it is the center of the media's role in modern public life. This process determines not only which information is selected, but also what the content and nature of the messages, such as news, will be.

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Re: first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by trippingthelight » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:43 am

Thanks for your huge responses will reply properly when back on Pc. So much to read!!

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animus wrote:Gatekeeping is the process of culling and crafting countless bits of information into the limited number of messages that reach people every day, and it is the center of the media's role in modern public life. This process determines not only which information is selected, but also what the content and nature of the messages, such as news, will be.[/i]
Ah, got it. Thanks. We seem to live in a world of gatekeepers, don't we?
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Re: first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by animus » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:23 am

Right you are.

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Re: first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by trippingthelight » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:15 am

Thanks for your replys, I am now back at work on a PC and can reply properly.
animus wrote:For someone who has been looking for the "truth" for only 9 months you certainly found the RS papers way faster than I did.
It was purely by chance, was watching a Max Spiers video and he was talking about stargates and I thought i'd have search and something made me click on the last page of results, I wouldn't normally go to the last page, so I like to think I was being directed there by some force! Do you know of Max Spiers? He has recently died at age 39, his interviews are fascinating.
animus wrote:People resonated with David Icke's 7h talk because he addressed the emotional burden in them that many didn't even know they had accumulated over the years. The result of his talk was that many turned to the alternative media. And if you noticed, the fear mongerering in the alt. media is even more prevalent than in the mainstream media.
Yeah and i suppose once you have them in that alternative media area there are predators ready and waiting to lead you somewhere else and muddy the waters, to create confusion. I am going to watch the peeling the onion video later today, have heard about NLP before but never delved into it. The video looks very interesting.
animus wrote:I'd recommend this thread
WOW, this thread is great and a real eye opener, i have in the past noticed how a lot of interesting forum topics descend into nonsense fairly quickly, no I know why. I shall be eagled eyed from now trying to spot these techniques.

I keep re-reading bit of Part V, I'm gonna hand to a friend today and see what he makes of it, daniel said the earth has not been this size forever. I have an old Atlas from 1991 i think and it details how the earth has grown over time. the way I always understood as a kid was the at the world was one land mass and the earth expanded and created the continents (like the expanding mud balloon!) but this isn't taught any more but does explain how the ancients had a different take on how the earth looked and how things have moved. I love the way he is dissecting the old Norse 'myths' and making actual sense of them. Some flat earthers do look to Greenland as having a big secret which is an interesting crossover of ideas but they haven't spent much time on it.

I feel like i'm meeting myself coming back trying to digest all this info.

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Re: first post, just found daniels papers!

Post by trippingthelight » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:15 pm

daniel wrote:When I was at Montauk, the buzz was that we did somehow get to the moon and were met by "others"--and told to "go home and don't come back." I also recall that they hired a number of psychics in order to remote view the moon to see what was going on there--apparently, a busy place.
Could they have gone before 1969 and created the TV event as 'well we better show them something'? Isn't there some structure with blue lights up there, i have seen pictures but i can't find them now and can't remember the name to pinpoint a search. A sort of powerplant?

Have you any idea what the structures all over Africa are that Tellinger talks about?
daniel wrote:Could it be that Jehovah was actually a T-rex
I was thinking along those lines, they are not lying about them being here, just lying about what they were and WHEN they were. Seriously some of this stuff is blowing my mind. Again the flat earth say they are hiding the bones and displaying plaster casts as they dont exist, but probably now more to do with them being bones of other worldy beings. I can see the similarities you mention with angels and the pteranadon.


I have just been digging some more and came across the 'Terra Papers' and the 'Greenland Theory' documents so I have lots of reading and watching to do. I have collected a few sci fi movies, just started Jupiter Ascending, two brothers wanting claim on earth is sounding familiar!

I remembered reading a Fantastic Four book to my son a few months back and being taken aback at how it seemed to echo David Icke when they talk about the Skrulls, extraterrestrial shapeshifters, crazy. I am seeing more and more than fiction is real and fact is a lie. Inversion. It's amazing how similar the themes in the kids TV shows like 'BEN 10 ALien Force' are with some of this.
daniel wrote:The BlueBeam technology can be used to fake an invasion, which they probably only need if people actually get off the couch and rebel against the ruling body. They have phasers and photon torpedoes--far more effective than the faked nuclear bombs.
yeah it was the fake invasion i was referring to as they all push project bluebeam heavily.
daniel wrote:Evolution up to the Neanderthal was a natural consequence of life
Could some other stages before Neanderthal be protoytypes before the humans were perfected? And in fact the evolution stopped way before?

daniel wrote:so they will probably set up one more big one to cash in, then just robotize the survivors with technology
Yup I can see this with the transhumanism agenda and merging with tech, which again is massive in movies at the moment. I can see all that will be left is a Robotic hybrid non-binary 'thing' slaving away.


How have you been allowed to write this stuff and not either be censored or worse (i hope you have a nice secure bunker somewhere). I've just discovered the Stranger Things TV show is tied into some of the Montauk experiments I believe.

Are you aware of the book 'The Traveler'? from 2007 i think. It a very interesting book set in modern day about a group of people who have psychic abilities and can travel through alternative realms, TBTP catch one and hook him up to a quantum computer ripe for exploitation. When you mention about the psychic in the chair in your papers it reminded me of the book.

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