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DUMBs, Alternative 3 & West vs East dialectic

Post by deepfsh » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:56 am

Part 1: DUMBs

Recently, the Russian REN TV made another long documentary based on David Wilcock’s work, with Benjamin Fulford - media representative of the so called (Asian, Freemasonic) White Dragon Society - appearing as a guest as well.

This time, the topic was about the deep underground military bases (DUMBs), or more precisely, the supposed destruction of 26 US bases - starting with two, one in Virginia, the other in Colorado - between Aug 2011 and Jan 2012, which Wilcock wrote about in a few blog entries back then.

According to Fulford, those bases were destroyed by the White Dragon Society, while in an interview with Wilcock in 2011 he said the following:
Who did the underground bases, in your estimation? Who nuked them and why? Does it have any relationship with this meeting in Monaco?

BF: Yes. It was Pentagon white hats saying to the elite, “You’re not going to destroy the surface of the planet and escape yourselves. [...] They made it very clear to them that they are not going to be able to initiate some kind of nuclear holocaust and be able to get away with it. [...] They know exactly where they are. And footage of the bases was shown? BF: That’s right. [The Pentagon gave this evidence to] the world governments to show, “Yes, it’s true. These crazy people were planning to kill 90 percent of humanity.” The world’s governments know this. Source
As for the technical part of the “operation”, it was speculated that:
[...] NO radioactivity was detected in either of the destroyed areas. What they DID find is now considered a baffling mystery. [...] They have now concluded that both bases were destroyed by an instantaneous twenty-fold increase in air pressure. [...] There is nothing left in either of these areas. Everything in them has been crushed to tiny particles of rubble. There is no point in ever trying to access them again or redevelop. The damage is total. No one knows how such an event is even possible. There is no record of any attack like this ever having been done before within the insider world. [...] Nonetheless, this attack does not resemble any known terrestrial technology -- regardless of how classified it may be.

[...] Therefore, this may have been an ET-assisted attack [...]. It may be that a massive quantity of air was "portaled" into either base. Portal technology does exist, but it certainly has never before been used like this -- and it's not even clear how it could be done. It is also possible that some unknown technology was used to expand the size of the air molecules within the bases by a factor of twenty. Russian "scalar" technology can make things get much hotter or much colder, and can create destructive impulses, but there is no record of anything like this ever having been achieved. Source
As a result, the insiders now know that for 24 hours before each of these bases was destroyed, they heard massive sounds of sliding furniture -- and people yelling and screaming. Part of what is so strange about this is that even tables that were bolted to the floor were unscrewed and removed. All that was left behind was furniture that was broken. By putting two and two together, it appears that massive portals were created inside these bases. All the materials and all the personnel were pulled out before the first two facilities were destroyed.

[...] I have been told that the amount of equipment -- including craft that would have been used to fake an alien invasion -- that was cleared out in the first two events alone was enough to constitute a critical, irreversible defeat for them. [...] The reports, again, are the same: audio recordings reveal the sounds of furniture sliding all over the place and people yelling. In this case, the bases are still there, but all the materials, spacecraft, et cetera have all been removed -- except for the broken furniture.

[...] Part of me lamented for the staff who went through fear and terror as they were pulled into these portals. I am saddened by the fact that so few of them are even aware that this is happening at all... and only find out once it is happening to them.

I also cried tears of relief in knowing that we are truly being guided and protected -- and that the most significant events in thousands of years of this "war" are now happening. [...] However, these "Asshole Hippies from Outer Space" are making it possible for this international coalition of 80 countries to actually succeed in their efforts.

[...] When this new financial system is announced, will you buy into the mountains of "fear porn" telling you that it is a diabolical plan from hell? When ETs are announced, will you embrace them as our long-lost brothers and sisters, or think they must be hideous, shape-shifting demons that want to utterly destroy human civilization?
Source
This is what Daniel had to say about these events back then, in October 2011:
Those were not "nuclear" explosions that destroyed those bases (and several others yet to be reported). A force cutter was used, which basically liquifies then crystallizes the structural material, turning it into a kind of green glass. Check your history--been used in Scotland, India, Arabia and many other places in ancient times. The force cutter blast is a soliton, so it does tend to shake things up a bit and produces no radiation. Brought to you by the same people who provided the Japanese tsunami.

Not ETs, just "Ts". It is not that their spiritual laws forbid them from intervening. They just didn't care enough about what mankind was doing, until mankind decided to massively poison the ocean and atmosphere with petrochemicals, then try to cover it up with biologics. They think of mankind like mankind thinks of dogs and cats... nice to have around, until they start shredding the drapes, digging holes in the carpeting and crapping on the bed. Something had to be done, and there is more to come. Source
I guess the Ts referred to by Daniel are the LMs living in their underground utopia, and not some "Asshole Hippies from Outer Space" - Larson's statement about complexity being entertaining comes to my mind.

During the show, the following was said about the DUMBs in general or mentioned in relation with them:
- existence of a supposed special underground train, which travels from NY to London
- mentioning of Phil Schneider (a geologist, who worked on DUMB projects) and Ron Rummel
- much of the US underground is covered by man-made tunnels (Daniel's/Bruce's maps about ancient underground tunnels come to my mind)
- 128 bases only in the US (1990s), more than 1000 around the world according to Schneider; the biggest is supposedly under the Denver Int. Airport
- skyscrapers, no pollution, cars which run on free energy; natural underground caves with water running through them; they create rivers and lakes; there are birds and anything you can find on the ground; can host up to 65,000 people; high-speed trains that go up to 1500 km/h
- 2-3 trillion dollars per year (black budget)
- everything in control of an international Shadow Government, as called by Col. Prouty; the CIA uses the resources of the private corporations
- Project Midgard Serpent
It surprises me – or maybe not – that they haven't included the research made by Richard Sauder, a pioneer in this field. If you want to know more about the above, you can watch Richard Dolan's lecture from 2010 on underground and undersea bases which is based on Sauder's work.
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Re: DUMBs, Alternative 3 & West vs East dialectic

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Part 2: ALTERNATIVE THREE

Ron Rummel, a supposed friend of Phil Schneider, wrote the following in one of his volumes of Alien Digest from 1990 about a so called "Alternative 3" scenario:
According to the book Alternative 3 (N.A.: see also the British documentary Science Report: Alternative 3 from 1977), printed in Great Britain, both the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. first found out about the 3 "alternatives" in 1957 by a Dr. Carl Gerstein in Huntsville, Alabama at a closed-door conference attended by government officials.

The first alternative, Gerstein explained, was to blow holes in the stratosphere with nuclear bombs, thereby allowing the escape of excess CO2 gas. This alternative, however, was abandoned since the holes would allow excess cosmic radiation into our atmosphere and only make matters worse.

The second alternative: to colonize the underground caverns beneath the surface of planet Earth to protect them from overheating (or an ice age). (N. A.: I think it was noted by Daniel or Bruce that it may be happening that we're actually slowly entering an ice age. The same was said by Dr Bill Deagle in a long lecture he gave in 2006/7 at the Granada Forum.)

Alternative #3: to colonize the planet Mars! To escape completely from the Green House effect via their revolutionary technology. In that same conference they also talked about using ordinary people as slave labour (superfluous) to be rounded up like cattle in "Batch Consignments". In the same manner, those who were intended "Designated Movers" were scrutinized more closely on intelligence factors, e.g. how their brains could help the project.

On January 2, 1959 the Soviets launched their first lunar probe from the main Soviet cosmodrome, Tyuratam. The Soviets refer to Tyuratam as "Baikonur", a site 5 times larger than Cape Canaveral, with 80 to 85 launch pads. However, for its objective for lunar impact, it really missed the moon—or so we were told. This lunar probe really shot pictures of the far side of the moon, 'eight months before' the moon shot that was given credit for taking the pictures.

They found vegetation (in the twilight areas) and also found that the Moon was made of decomposed granite-like dirt when Lunik III took to the Moon, it secretly dropped a 344-pound equipment capsule as it came within 4,350 miles from the far side of the Moon (Oct. 4,1959). The United States' Pioneer 4 also missed the Moon on its March 3, 1959 mission for Lunar impact—or so we were told.

On March 6, 1960, the L.A. 'Times' reported that information had been received from an ex-Soviet missile engineer to the effect that Russia had twice successfully tested a giant nuclear rocket. According to Dr. Gerstein, one of the rockets blew up on launch (the first one) in 1959, which killed many people and destroyed the launch pad.

James Oberg, in his book Red Star in Orbit, states the description of an attempted space spectacular that backfired with a blast that killed maybe 40, maybe a thousand, of the top Soviet space experts just when Premier Nikita Khrushchev was at the U.N. October 1960, looking for a chance to brag that his team had launched a space probe to Mars.

After Lunik III, Russia started going to Mars, Beginning on October 10, 1960. U- l was the name of that probe. U-2 launched on October 14, 1960, it was an unannounced mission identified by U.S. sources as going to Mars. Of U.S. probes, mission results are also riddled with spacecraft failure, missed Moon shots, communications lost-en- route, failure to leave Earth orbit, etc. Or so we were told.

There were 11 space shots in 1962; five were U.S.S.R. unannounced missions, the rest were U.S. shots, not counting the May 22, 1962 shot the book talks about landing a probe on Mars.

Evidence suggests that the super-powers landed men on the Moon between 1960 and 1961, and were setting up their Moon Bases for a big launch to Mars where the super- powers would then set up their Mars Bases. There is a further likelihood that the super-powers set up their Mars bases in the latter part of 1963.

Meanwhile back on Earth, the super-powers were gathering "components" (slaves) to be de-brained and de-sexed, rounded up in "batch consignments". In fact, led by behaviorists, psychiatrists, psychosurgeons, genetic manipulators and biocomputer technicians, virtually the entire scientific establishment within the last four decades has focused on exotic and largely "unpublished" research aimed at wholesale manipulation of human behavior and the obliteration of independent personality and freedom of individual choice.

Tracking Implanted People?

When told of controlling people by remote electronics, the ultra-secret National Security Agency came up with the figure of 25,000,000 people in the U.S. alone who they would like to monitor (and which they are now quite capable of doing!).

In fact, the very first electronic implants were put into teeth, they were small radio transmitters, just like bone phones, the messages would go right up into the skull. Dr. Delgado became famous for stopping a bull with a brain implant (technofascism). There is implanting of prisoners now in the prisons who go out on electronic parole with little implants under their skin. This is done openly by the hundreds. Then there are the Designated Movers... These people, extremely intelligent and with very high I.Q.s, were coerced or even forcibly taken into occupations aimed toward the colonization of Mars. Only those people who had the talents necessary to build a new "Utopia" were chosen. They consisted of: aerospace specialists, physicists, meteorologists, astronomers, endocrinologists, nutrition specialists, constructional engineers, administrators with international experience, physicists, mathematicians, doctors, chemists, neurologists, bacteriologists, computer specialists, mining technicians, paleontologists, neurosurgeons, psychologists, photorespiration/photosynthesis/plant reproductivity experts, and electrogravitational "saucer" experts.

You have to understand that when the JASON Group (of which George Bush is said to be a member) started Alternative 3 to go to Mars, their understanding of the problem was simple! "Get the hell off this planet while there' s still time, or else!" WASHINGTON - (Sept. 30, 1990) The House passed Friday a $44 billion, three-year spending authorization bill for NASA that includes President Bush's proposal to place a settlement on the Moon and begin work on a manned expedition to Mars.

Th e National Aeronautics and Space Administration bill includes no money for the Moon and Mars program in the next fiscal year but would spend $444 million to begin it in fiscal 1992 and $649 million in fiscal 1993. (What about the other 42.9 billion?) The bill won approval on a voice vote after a brief debate. It goes to a conference committee to work out differences with the Senate.

Powering the Spacecraft

Having an interest in atomic fusion- power spaceships, I especially like Bob Lazar's understanding of how the aliens spaceships are run on element 115, which can only be made in an environment of binary or twin stars. Bill Cooper suggested there were plans to turn Jupiter into another sun, as was suggested in Clark's 2010. This would create a binary system in our area like that of the Zeta Reticuli aliens. Are they behind this? Is there another way to create element 115?

The apparent success of the cold fusion technique has stimulated efforts to extend it to the long-standing search for super heavy elements. The possibility that such elements might exist is suggested by the shell model of the nucleus, which describes nucleons as occupying successive shells much like the shells o f electrons that determine the chemical properties of atoms.

Each shell can hold a particular number of nucleons, and filled shells bring enhanced stability. The filling of nucleon shells in elements with atomic numbers in the range from 114 to 126 is expected to make such hypothetical nuclei unusually stable. Elements occupying such an "island of stability" would presumably be easier to detect than elements with atomic numbers ranging from 109 to 114.
The author of the book Alternative 3 (1979), Leslie Watkins, said the following:
We wrote to the author himself to try to get the real story, and here is the
letter he sent us.

Dear Ms. Dittrich:

Thank you for your letter, which reached me today. Naturally, I am delighted by your interest in Alternative 3 and by the fact that you plan to sell it in the Windwords bookstore. I will certainly cooperate in any way I can.

The correct description of Alternative 3 was given to you by the representative from Penguin Books. The book is based on fact, but uses that fact as a launchpad for a HIGH DIVE INTO FICTION. In answer to your specific questions:
  • 1) There is no astronaut named Grodin.
    2) There is no Sceptre Television and the reported Benson is also
    fictional.
    3) There is no Dr. Gerstein.
    4) Yes, a "documentary" was televised in June 1977 on Anglia
    Television, which went out to the entire national network in
    Britain. It was called Alternative 3 and was written by David
    Ambrose and produced by Christopher Miles (whose names were on
    the book for contractual reasons). This original TV version,
    which I EXPANDED IMMENSELY for the book, was ACTUALLY A HOAX
    which had been scheduled for transmission on April Fools' Day.
    Because of certain problems in finding the right network slot,
    the transmission was delayed.
The TV program did cause a tremendous uproar because viewers refused to believe it was fiction. I initially took the view that the basic premise was so way-out, particularly the way I aimed to present it in the book, that no one would regard it as non-fiction. Immediately after publication, I realized I was totally wrong. In fact, the amazing mountains of letters from virtually all parts of the world - including vast numbers from highly intelligent people in positions of responsibility - convinced me that I had ACCIDENTALLY trespassed into a range of top-secret truths.

Documentary evidence provided by many of these correspondents decided me to write a serious and COMPLETELY NON-FICTION sequel. Unfortunately, a chest containing the bulk of the letters was among the items which were mysteriously LOST IN TRANSIT some four years when I moved from London, England, to Sydney, Australia, before I moved on to settle in New Zealand. For some time after Alternative 3 was originally published, I have reason to suppose that my home telephone was being tapped and my contacts who were experienced in such matters were convinced that certain intelligence agencies considered that I probably knew too much.

So, summing up, the book is FICTION BASED ON FACT. But I now feel that I inadvertently got VERY CLOSE TO A SECRET TRUTH. I hope this is of some help to you and I look forward to hearing from you again.

With best wishes,
Leslie Watkins

Source
Project Camelot's whitness Henry Deacon/Arthur Neumann also made a remark about the "Alternative 3" in 2006:
So we’ve explored Mars already.
  • - Sure, a long time ago. Have you seen Alternative Three?
Yes.
  • - That had some truth to it. The Mars landing video was all a spoof, and other parts of it were as well, but there’s truth there.
Source
This is what he said (to PC) about Mars:
One of the portals connects to Mars, and it’s a stable connection, no matter where Earth and Mars are in their orbits. We have a base there established in the early sixties. Actually, we have a number of bases. Source (2006)
Henry confirmed the existence of a large manned base on Mars, supplied through an alternative space fleet and also through stargates. Source
The story appears to be extremely complex, and that may be an understatement. Henry fed us snippets on an intermittent basis. These were sometimes very enigmatic. What we were able to gather together was this:

• Henry told us that the Mars base has a large population – 670,000 as of a few years ago. This seemed a huge number to us. We asked if these were all human. "It depends what you mean by human", came the reply.

The base has been in existence for an extremely long time ("tens of thousands of years"), and its population has waxed and waned over the centuries. It lies "at the bottom of an ancient seabed". It is "not far" from the location of this NASA photo, taken by the 1976 Viking 2 lander on Mars' expansive Utopia Planitia ("Nowhere Plain", sometimes referred to as "Utopian Plain").

• Henry stated that the most recent NASA images, discrediting the notion of a "Face on Mars", have been doctored, as have the colors of the Martian sky on most officially released NASA photos. (It is apparently more blue than we are permitted to believe.)

• The Anunnaki are one part of the mix. Henry referred to them a number of times as being operational in present time. He said that they originated from another star system, but he could not remember where. The Anunnaki is our name for them, and they are the same race referenced and described in Zecharia Sitchin's work.

The Anunnaki themselves are split into a number of factions, some of which are friendly, and others not. The most sinister thing he alluded to was that one faction of the Anunnaki sometimes preyed on human flesh, having acquired a taste for it. Other factions of the Anunnaki sought to prevent this. Such was the extreme nature of this piece of information that (in conversation) Henry was obliged to make repeated oblique references to it before we finally grasped what he was trying to tell us.

Click on the image on the right to read a screen shot of an e-mail we received which conveyed a very small part of this story. Note Henry's emphasis on the word "appears" (typical of his cautious and exact approach), and the typo in "Sumerian". The e-mail is presented exactly as received.

• Transport is by two means: stargates for personnel and small items, spacecraft for larger items of freight. The alternative fleet is codenamed SOLAR WARDEN.

We had first heard of this from another source, and queried Henry about the codename. We sent him two separate messages, each simply of one word: SOLAR, and then WARDEN. We offered no context, or reason for our communication.

The reply came immediately in three e-mails, each from a different address. The first said MARS, the second said ALTERNATIVE, and the third had as its subject "Not listed here" and gave this URL as its only content. We were impressed.

• Later, in separate conversation, he said that a journey through a stargate was "instantaneous", and he gave the impression that the experience of the stargate transition was at once disorienting and exhilarating. He described the appearance of a manmade stargate as a featureless gray surface. Natural stargates, he said, have a different appearance which is much harder to detect. Source (2007)
• We heard more about the Mars Colony (old, multifunctional, the largest of several on the planet, almost completely underground, and occupied by many diverse groups);

• We were told that the terraforming of Mars has begun; (N.A.: As Daniel wrote, this doesn’t mean it is being done by us.)

• Henry confirmed that David Wilcock's contact 'Daniel' was fairly accurate in his depiction of the Montauk project (the one correction being that the means of transport to Mars is now via jumprooms rather than jumpgates)

[...] Henry stated that Mars had experienced several catastrophes, not all naturally caused. [...]

• We asked Henry if the Apollo astronauts had actually gone to the moon. This was a question that had not actually previously occurred to us in earlier meetings. There was a long pause before Henry replied saying: Yes, they had. But it was not a simple answer.

Most of the missions did indeed go to the moon, but some photos and film footage were fabricated for PR purposes, and - remarkably – some advanced technology was borrowed: a lightweight nano tech-skin shielding combined with a charged-field technology were utilized on some of the craft to provide very effective radiation shielding, combined with other technologies used to protect the astronauts from Gamma and other hazardous radiations and energetic particles during the journeys. Additional advanced “alien” technologies were added to land the Lunar Module and assist take-off from the moon.

Some Apollo astronauts were aware of these technologies (though only a couple were aware of the alternative space program). This accounts for some general reluctance to be interviewed or to speak openly on the subject. Their anger at those who claim they never went at all is understandable, because they did indeed reach the moon. They were very brave men... and they had some help.

• Incredibly, Henry stated that the one moon we have now is known to have been engineered into position eons ago. When we asked if this was done by our ancestors or by our creators, the answer came back "both".
In answer to our many questions, he explained that a classified, alternative space program, not in any way connected with the use of rocket motors, began soon after World War II [...] Source (2007)
I will conclude with astronauts' photos of the Moon as presented on the web page of the Orion Conspiracy, a short documentary from 2008. And additional photos provided by Daniel.
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Post by deepfsh » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:49 pm

Part 3: EAST vs WEST DIALECTIC
Divine Cosmos with David Wilcock wrote:Neil Keenan's epic multi-billion-dollar lawsuit against the United Nations and other Cabal entities is discussed, as well as Fulford's own efforts to organize resistance efforts. [...] The documentary ultimately stops short of naming BRICS -- Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa -- as the public face of this new alliance against the Federal Reserve. This alliance apparently now encompasses a majority of all countries in the world. Source
In the documentary, it was stated that the gold was supposedly returned to the (Asian, Freemasonic) White Dragon Society / its legal owners, and that they supposedly won the war from the political point of view. I consider this a very broad statement, without any concrete questions made by the Russian TV crew about what the White Dragon Society really is, although I think they covered it a bit in the previous two documentaries.

As Keenan and BRICS are concerned, we've already discussed it on the fora, so I will not repeat myself.
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Post by deepfsh » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:05 pm

Part 4: DANIEL’S VIEW ON THE NWDisorder

Now, after you (rerere)reread all of the above, let’s (rerere)read a more (rerere)reasonable analysis of the events and developments related to the "New World Disorder’s" plans, which were made in the past, [1][2][3][4][5] are executed in the present, and are (probably) going to happen in the (near) future. [6][7][8]
A lot of the claims people make concerning the New World Order don't make much sense to me, as the Illuminati aren't idiots... they have been running the planet for the last 800 years or so, and been very successful at manipulating everything to their needs. So I took a look at the data, and knowing what I know about the "gods of old," formulated a hypothesis on what the actual agenda is these days.

Anyone has studied the global situation knows that wars and conflicts are all fabricated for specific needs, and usually the needs of multinational corporations. As are most things these days... "false flags" to influence public opinion and control the masses. There is no "cold war," no "drug war"... all staged for specific goals. So I got to wondering about all the deadly weapons we have stockpiled, all over the world. There's no actual use for them, as there is no real conflict between countries. It's all an act.

First, riddle me this... since we haven't actually had a "conflict" between countries since the 13th century when the Annunaki lost the SM-LM war, pulled out, and the Illuminati took over, why are there 27,000 nuclear missiles on this planet? Considering the area they destroy, about 37 square miles, all of them, together, would only destroy 0.5% of the land area of Earth. (N.A.: the fake nuclear explosions were discussed on AQ.)

We also know from Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that a mere 40 years later the cities now have over a million people living in them again--and cancer rates are some of the lowest in the world, as it seems the low-level radiation destroys cancer cells. From that data, one can conclude that a damaged area from a nuclear exchange only lasts about 20 years before habitation can start again.

According to Alex Jones, D.U.M.B.s (Deep Underground Military Bases) have enough resources to last 30 years, which not only includes all the stuff people need (royalty along with their slaves to do the work), but a stockpile of army equipment, naval ships and aircraft... enough to take control of the land, sea and skies, should the facilities not be available to construct new equipment when they decide to come out of their holes.

The estimated cost of a DUMB is about 20 billion dollars (James Casbolt), which would be rather difficult to hide from the public, no matter how much you lied about it being for public schools. There is only one activity that produces that level of "black" money--the drug trade. Therefore, the large corporations behind these constructions are also the people promoting drug use, and pushing the "war on drugs" to keep the prices high. (It also makes for some nice, free experimental data on mind control, as many psychoactive drugs were developed for MK Ultra.)

There are approximately 1500 of these DUMB bases, worldwide, deep enough in the ground to be in the SIMA layer of Earth--the hard basalt, not the surface dirt that is subject to the destructive forces of the majority of Earthquakes. The stuff you see on YouTube with bases on the surface is just a staging area, or a place for those folks that THINK they are buying protection.

Each base is theorized to house 50,000 people, approximately. That's a total of 7.5 million "selected" folks to ride out whatever is going to happen.

I have still found no indication that they are aware of the geophysics of Earth, nor the planetary expansion. There is enough info out there that I'm sure it was considered, but rejected by their "experts," and they do listen to their experts.

In essence, they have everything they need to survive a nuclear war and repopulate the Earth, the way they want it. EVERYTHING on the surface is expendable.

So what about us surface dwellers...

SDI is a directed-energy weapon and was probably used to destroy the world trade centers (see Judy Wood)--and no idea how many orbital platforms they may actually have equipped with this. That "international treaty" disallowing the weaponizing of space is a crock; these people are working together. Like the drug war, it is only there to keep the "little guys" out of the big picture. We have a running joke out here in the boondocks, in that you can't go to bed until you see a satellite go by... OK, time to go to bed. They are almost non-stop in the sky. Folks in cities don't see them because of the light pollution.

All missiles are projectile weapons, that work best when directed precisely at a target--they are very inefficient for a wide area. They are "intercontinental," which means they can also reach orbit and target anything in near Earth orbit. I don't think the stockpile is here so two guys in the Bilderberg club can play war on each others countries... that kind of firepower needs to be aimed at something, and that something is tough to destroy.

In order for DUMB bases to function optimally, they need compact food, or food that grows in adverse conditions and has significantly higher yields than "natural" foods. Enter GMO foods, and experiment on the public to find out what works best, what kind of side-effects they have, and what to do to optimize it. Not like our government has every experimented on the public before!

GMO also has a secondary purpose, as the bad stuff is left in the general population and weakens the species that consumes it, whether it be cattle or sheeple. It also tends to make the host infertile. May be part of a depopulation agenda, but more likely they are doing the same thing the Russians did to the Germans when Hitler invaded--poison the wells and food stuffs, and retreat. Leave an unhealthy, poor-quality slave on the surface for someone to find--that may actually be toxic to them. Recall the Stargate Atlantis episode with the Hoffans, and their drug that killed the Wraith? And how did the Wraith respond to that? Oh... they wiped out every planet where contaminated people were found. We only have one planet here. And guess who survives? The Genii in their underground bunkers.

Another thing that has been turning up are "manimals," mutants that have some human characteristics mixed with other mammals, like what is seen in the old, Egyptian hieroglyphs. Top of this list is the "Humanzee," a cross between a human and chimpanzee that has the brains of a human and the strength of a great ape--about 5x as strong as a Cro-Magnon, along the old Neanderthal lines. Now why would anyone need to create such critters? Jesse Ventura looked at it and concluded it was for a slave army to fight the civilian population, as humanzees were easy to mind control and he did not think the Army would turn on their families, regardless of orders. Does not make a lot of sense to me; they have the technology to destroy large populations already, if they wanted to. But... suppose an army of 15-foot tall lizards showed up on the planet, like they did 6000 years ago, that were highly resistant to conventional weapons and could crush a soldier with one hand? Some super-soldiers would come in really handy then, like Anubis' kull warriors. An equal match to land-based attack.

Now what about all the surveillance that is going on? I'm sure they love listening in on people all over the globe making phone sex calls, but as a deterrent to anti-NWO, not very effective. The sample size is just too large for the data to make any sense. However, what if they were monitoring for specific changes in behavior? As you may recall in Sumerian research, the Annunaki had these things called MEs, or "Tablets of Destiny," that granted amazing power to the one that possessed it--including mind control of a slave population. And we have our own offshoot of that technology with MK Ultra and followup projects. If "visitors" arrived and initiated a situation similar to the "V" blessing (global mind control)... talk about your battle for people's minds. A bunch of pawns on the board, as it takes some spirit to resist the "Voice of God." (Which, BTW, is the name for the technology that allows a person to send a voice into another person's brain through modulated microwaves--"channeling.")

It is all pointing to a scenario where the Annunaki return to harvest their crop and their descendents--the NWO royalty--aren't too happy about that. It appears they have several lines of defense, starting with the SDI system, nuclear strikes, and armies of mind-control slaves that they will have to go through to get to them. But it gives them enough time to climb into their DUMB holes and lock the doors, while Obama fiddles and the world burns.

And I believe they have known about this since the early 1930s, when the first scouts landed on Earth to talk with FDR. Up until then, they were having quite a nice time with their Illuminati NWO. And something else happened during the 1980s that triggered SDI--and I suspect that is Montauk. Reagan was President then, and some strange stuff was going on that may have attracted the attention of the Annunaki, telling them the crop is ripe.

Time for Harvest, "To Serve Man."

WAIT... it's a cookbook!

Source
Well, then bon appétit! :)
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Re: DUMBs, Alternative 3 & West vs East dialectic

Post by AnAncientAwakening » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:32 pm

The one thing about all of this is: What is the end result? If the advanced terrestrial species of this planet are intervening to prevent the NWO folks from completely laying waste to everything, and if the Annunaki are continuing to send scout ships to Earth to advise the powers that be - where does it end? I mean, it's plain to see that as part of the New World Order agenda, our planet is being turned into an artificial world. The LMs are obviously not standing for this. After all, it's their home, as well. So can the NWO agenda work if the planet is not made artificial? They can't rule globally without that. So many people keep talking about a massive depopulation, a New World Order, and some significant event to trigger the next step. In all honesty, I don't see it. The people out on the street are so brainwashed that the controllers don't need to pull something significant. I mean, the people are nice enough, but they have completely taken the bait. The slow frog boil approach has proven to be tremendously successful: Continue putting out films and TV shows, (featuring paid shills with two teeth saying, "I done seen bigfoot!", and absurd films like Prometheus), which make REAL talk of ETs and Ts look like a joke; continue the outright assault on herbology and so-called "alternative" medicine; and continue to prop up the debt-based system, which 95% of people cannot see a way around, and - - why the need for some big event? I mean, people ADORE this Pope. Big Ears, if he doesn't get a third term, will be replaced by Hillary Clinton, (if they don't decide to go the Ron Paul/Rand Paul route, which I doubt at this point), and the nonsense continues on unabated.

I don't mean to sound negative here, but articles like the ones being put forth by Wilcock and Fulford are getting old. Wilcock isn't an ill-intentioned person, but rather I think that he has completely bought into all of this nonsense concerning the Dragons, Keenan, Fulford, Daikaku, et. al. Heaven knows where 'Drake' ended up after Denise Rednour finally came out of her slumber. When I tracked the trail down the Unwanted Publicity/Sterling Seagrave/Deep Black Lies route, I had some interesting conversations, and I came across the deeper workings behind all of this Black Eagle Trust Fund/Project Hammer stuff. I smelled a rat; that swallowed a dragon; that swallowed a white hat...

It's blantantly obvious that the East vs. West dialectic is failing in the alternative media. The MSM continues to paint Putin in a negative light, and most Americans are talking about the Chinese take-over of American industry, the "Century of the Dragon", as I remember it being called. The IMF appears to be the big-dog now, not the BRICS central bank (at least today. Tomorrow, who knows?) But then, it may as well be called IMFBRICS, because it's all the same thing. I do believe, however, that the alternative press is being used as a 'testing ground' to see if they can get enough people to buy into the White Hats stuff, and if they do, they can start going public with it; but that was 'so' 2012 :-) That plan isn't going to work anymore; which is why David's posting of this new article is such a head-scratcher. I wish that he'd get on here, to be honest. He seems bright enough to want to do something about all of this; if his intentions are in the right place. He should have spent more time in his books writing about Larson rather than the "Golden Age" stuff.

Ultimately, the answer that I seek to the first question lies in my own hands. I stopped trying to get people to listen. That's not the point. It's becoming involved with those who DO understand, and having something to offer to those few efforts that do 'get it', that I do believe ultimately matters; which is why I am thankful for this community. It's hard sometimes being in a 'virtual' realm, as it cannot replace real human interaction. But I have begun meeting and interacting with others who do in fact understand a great deal of what is being discussed here, and that is reassuring. It's hard to pretend every day, but that's the challenge we all face, I suppose. It must mean that I'm doing something right, what with the fact that I really do not feel comfortable holding secrets. I like transparency. I also liked what Bruce had to say: "Want to find out what someone's really made of? Make them really, really angry." That is very true. The "persona" falls, and the truer self is revealed. Telling...

Anyhow, I think I see a satellite... :D
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Re: DUMBs, Alternative 3 & West vs East dialectic

Post by deepfsh » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:24 am

infinity wrote:So now what?
AnAncientAwakening wrote:I stopped trying to get people to listen. That's not the point. It's becoming involved with those who DO understand, and having something to offer to those few efforts that do 'get it', that I do believe ultimately matters
If I remember it correctly, Daniel wrote this in one of his posts - I believe it's based on years of experimenting with different approaches of presenting his research to others.

Jordan Maxwell came to a similar conclusion - people will always pay for something they like, never for what they don't like, which means that you can do your best and reach out to others, but if some are not interested, they simply won't pay attention, no matter how alarming the information is – cases related to health issues can be used as an analogy. According to Maxwell, all his efforts (at 74 years of age) are aimed only at those few people who are really interested in his research, and don't just want to be entertained by some exclusive information.

For me, CH and AQ are safe havens which make possible for a relaxed, true exchange of ideas and sharing of knowledge.
AnAncientAwakening wrote:It's hard sometimes being in a 'virtual' realm, as it cannot replace real human interaction.
I consider this a training ground for the (potential) later phase of physical interaction.
AnAncientAwakening wrote:The MSM continues to paint Putin in a negative light,
It depends. For example, according to a last year's article from the (»authoritative«) Vatican Insider, Putin is considered an »important contributor to the new world order« - I've already mentioned the Third Rome (Moscow) concept in some of my old posts.
AnAncientAwakening wrote:and most Americans are talking about the Chinese take-over of American industry, the "Century of the Dragon", as I remember it being called.
The Chinese takeover of the US has been obviously happening since after WW2, and was planned by Western power-brokers. Bill Still talks about how the Chinese financed Clinton's presidential election campaign in his documentary series Truth About Clinton's Impeachment (see parts 10, 7, 6).
AnAncientAwakening wrote:The IMF appears to be the big-dog now,
Interestingly, Maxwell wrote about the IMF in his book Matrix of Power (= the supposed basis for the Matrix movies) already at the end of the Nineties.
AnAncientAwakening wrote:not the BRICS central bank (at least today. Tomorrow, who knows?) But then, it may as well be called IMFBRICS, because it's all the same thing.
I certainly agree with Maxwell that you have to go back to the foundations of any subject you want to research in order to get the proper understanding of it. In this case, it's the Knight Templars, Knights of Malta, »revenue services«, Bank For International Settlements, etc. – it appears the latest one is the peak of the banking pyramid, which was already exposed by prof. Quigley in his book Tragedy and Hope a few decades ago. Prof. Antony Sutton also wrote several very important books related to all of this (you can also watch a few interviews on YT).
AnAncientAwakening wrote:I do believe, however, that the alternative press is being used as a 'testing ground' to see if they can get enough people to buy into the White Hats stuff, and if they do, they can start going public with it; but that was 'so' 2012
I'm sure this is one of their methods – a classic operation, I believe. Ken's blog about the latest Batman movies, the US Senator who appeared in them, John Kerry, and the Operation American Spring tells me how different types of engineering can converge. Sometimes they fail, but mostly succeed, since »they« have all the money and resources at their disposal.
AnAncientAwakening wrote:Wilcock isn't an ill-intentioned person, but rather I think that he has completely bought into all of this nonsense concerning the Dragons, Keenan, Fulford, Daikaku, et. al.
He seems bright enough to want to do something about all of this; if his intentions are in the right place.
I would agree with Daniel that »David is a nice guy, but doesn't always get it right«. There was an interesting post made by Bruce on AQ about the »Wanderers« and how they, as a group, might be subconsciously expecting some kind of a Saviour-type scenario, not necessarily with an ET master appearing, but the »Truth« in general, if I remember it (and try to interpret it in my way) correctly.

I haven't read his second book yet, but from what I understood so far, he based all of his research on The Law of One channeling, trying to prove it is correct. According to cyclology, there are certain patterns (cycles) which repeat in time, and the next one is obviously a so called Golden Age (more precisely, he wrote in his first book that Age was actually mistranslated for Race – the coming Race), all in turn based on Campbell's so called hero journey.

I prefer the AQ path (if I understood it correctly) – choosing no sides, just peacefully exploring the universe around me.
AnAncientAwakening wrote:He should have spent more time in his books writing about Larson rather than the "Golden Age" stuff.
I wonder how the Golden Race (ETs?) concept correlates with Hitler's New Man and all the genetic/bio/geoengineering which has been going on since the beginning of the 20th century.
AnAncientAwakening wrote:which is why David's posting of this new article is such a head-scratcher. I wish that he'd get on here, to be honest.
I always wondered if he or any of his associates read Daniel's papers or anything on this or Bruce's forum.
AnAncientAwakening wrote:What is the end result?
- where does it end?
I mean, it's plain to see that as part of the New World Order agenda, our planet is being turned into an artificial world.
So can the NWO agenda work if the planet is not made artificial? They can't rule globally without that.
So many people keep talking about a massive depopulation, a New World Order, and some significant event to trigger the next step. In all honesty, I don't see it.
The slow frog boil approach has proven to be tremendously successful
- why the need for some big event?
Since we're being considered as sheeple / cattle, I wouldn't be surprised if we are meant to be used as weapons for a next LM-SM-kind of war, maybe against our Godzilla-type parents, as Daniel suggested, or someone else - the stealing of one's soul, as portrayed in the series Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future, also comes to my mind. Maybe time goes fast from our point of view, but not for our true parents, whoever they are, and they might really come back to pick us up. Meanwhile, we can stay entertained by the economic system and the like.

It seems there are a lot of agendas, and a lot of people choosing sides, even within the supposed Majestic 12, JASON, etc., as usually in a collective. That's probably why there were and are some books, testimonials, documentaries, movies and TV series trying to bring the facts to the public, while at the same time being ridiculed.

On the other hand, with the help of occult powers or beings, there seems to be a kind of (an old) global script which goes on unabated for the last few hundred or thousand years.
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Endgame

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Post-apocalyptic Tucson, 2020

Post by deepfsh » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:07 pm

I stumbled upon the following tidbit while researching this topic.
Project Camelot, 2007, wrote:The Report from Iron Mountain
For this update, Henry specifically asked us to refer again to The Report from Iron Mountain, which he spoke about in our first interview. For those unfamiliar with the document, this is the detailed report by a major think tank that was commissioned by JFK in the early 60s, briefed to focus on emerging major problems of the world in the post-war era. Although it exists more or less in its entirety, Henry was adamant that a false introduction had been added to the Report as damage control after it had been widely leaked and published as a book. The idea was then 'seeded' that it was imaginative fiction. Henry is adamant that it is not fiction.

To summarize the document is impossible in a single paragraph. The relevance to the present day is that the problem of the Earth's rapidly growing population is one of the core themes. Henry states that most of the recommendations of the think tank report have now been implemented.

Henry had been given the official document to read in a government meeting in Tucson, Arizona, in 1986, in which a high-ranking military briefing officer made this statement, in connection with the document: "There are sheep and there are wolves. We are the wolves." Source
Tucson was envisioned as a post-apocalyptic, bombed-out wreck of city in the "Dollhouse" series finale [2009, N.A.] on Friday.
Some would argue that's the way parts of the city look now, but Joss Whedon's recently canceled sci-fi series on Fox took it to the extreme. The city, now called Neuropolis or The City of Minds, was the headquarters of the evil Rossum Corporation.
An establishing shot of the city in 2020 shows an altered downtown. In addition to destroying parts of the city, the show's creators also added and removed some buildings and landmarks. But it's definitely the Old Pueblo.
The view is obviously from "A" Mountain [Sentinel Peak, N.A.] looking down on the city. Interstate 10 is in the foreground and the Hotel Arizona is prominent in the center, still looking very much the same. Many other buildings also are identifiable by location and shape, including Arizona Stadium in the upper right. Source
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Re: DUMBs, Alternative 3 & West vs East dialectic

Post by Lozion » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:19 pm

deepfsh wrote: On the other hand, with the help of occult powers or beings, there seems to be a kind of (an old) global script which goes on unabated for the last few hundred or thousand years.
I would be interested in hearing you expand on this. :D
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Re: DUMBs, Alternative 3 & West vs East dialectic

Post by infinity » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:43 pm

Lozion you should edit that post to remove the quote confusion since it wasn't me that said that ;)

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