Relation to physical death?

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Relation to physical death?

Post by Lostseeker » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:55 am

First, thanks to Daniel for his material and answers...all has been eye-opening and much appreciated.

My question is, what is the relation of the densities, to mortal physical "death" as we know it? Some sources of info say that beyond the physical body is the "astral" plane...does that have any truth, and if so, what is the connection to the densities?

And, what is "death" in 4D? Is there such a thing, or is it different from the kind we know?

Also, I think this is related, but some ET/EDs seem clearly to have an existence that transcends physical death as humans know it. Physical death seems not to bother or worry them one bit, and they seem to be able to treat physical bodies as one would clothes...changing them at will (or almost), and not losing their true selves or knowledge in between so-called "incarnations". How/why are they able to do this, or to be free of these most basic limitations of human existence?

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Re: Relation to physical death?

Post by daniel » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:21 am

Lostseeker wrote:My question is, what is the relation of the densities, to mortal physical "death" as we know it? Some sources of info say that beyond the physical body is the "astral" plane...does that have any truth, and if so, what is the connection to the densities?
First, let's take a look at how death is interpreted in the densities:

1st Density: rocks die through radioactive decay.

2nd Density: Larson's life unit; plant and animal kingdoms. Life occurs when material atoms combine with cosmic atoms in a stable configuration. Therefore death occurs when combination breaks apart. This is just a matter of probability, so all cells of a specific configuration will have approximately the same lifetime.

3rd Density: Larson's ethical control unit. Built upon 2nd density life plus the addition of the spirit/animus complex. Because the control unit aggregates life units, death occurs when the body and mind/soul combination breaks apart. The catch here is the non-local aspect of the soul--one soul can be connected to multiple, physical bodies through the control unit. Loss of a single body back to inanimate status is analogous to "shedding a skin" for the soul. Because the consciousness cannot remain in the body being shed, it transitions back to the mind/soul aspect in 3D time--the "Other Realm" or Astral plane. Reincarnation is the transition of the consciousness into a new "skin."

Ontological planes correspond to the dimensional structure of space-time: physical is 3D space, astral is 3D time, etheric is the projection of the astral upon the physical, producing the ghost-like etheric double (equivalent space, as discussed in EDs & ETs).
Lostseeker wrote:And, what is "death" in 4D? Is there such a thing, or is it different from the kind we know?
4D is when you start to bridge the gap between the physical, 3D space and the astral, 3D time. In essence, building up your etheric "equivalent space" body as a bridge. You can still die by losing the corporeal body, but since you already have a "foot in the grave," so to speak, by extending your consciousness across into the astral, 3D time, there is no "veil of forgetting." Death becomes more of an inconvenience, than a terminal condition, because now you have to replace the broken body with a new one, then move your consciousness back in and continue where you left off. In 4D, you remember "past lives" because you aren't storing everything in the brain--you are storing it in the soul, so when you do reincarnate, you come back with most of your memories of your old life intact.

(MiniMoose... perhaps you could come up with a good visual?)
Lostseeker wrote:Also, I think this is related, but some ET/EDs seem clearly to have an existence that transcends physical death as humans know it. Physical death seems not to bother or worry them one bit, and they seem to be able to treat physical bodies as one would clothes...changing them at will (or almost), and not losing their true selves or knowledge in between so-called "incarnations". How/why are they able to do this, or to be free of these most basic limitations of human existence?
Explained above; Also, because you can gain conscious control over your own bioenergy, you can prevent cell death from the normal, 2D process from occurring, thus extending life considerably. With meditative effort, you can become immortal in 4D, in the sense of your physical body never dying from natural causes. Beings of higher density retain more information and lose less in the transition, should it occur. Once you access all three temporal dimensions, you become "fault tolerant" as each side, this realm and the other, has a complete copy of yourself, so nothing is ever lost.
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Re: Relation to physical death?

Post by Secret Agent Man » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:10 pm

I like this explanation daniel. It makes a lot of sense. I just wanted to mention so. Thanks again for all you are doing by sharing your knowledge and perceptions.

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Re: Relation to physical death?

Post by Lostseeker » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:10 pm

Daniel: many thanks for the reply. I admit I am having trouble visualizing/understanding but I will try re-reads of your other papers alongside this.

Other questions are coming to mind but since they are unrelated (I think) I will post separately. Thank you again.

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Re: Relation to physical death?

Post by Realized » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:41 pm

or, you could just see that not only are you not the body, but you are not the soul either. you can see that there is no need ever to reincarnate or go to any other density or dimension. that is, of course, only if you choose to.

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