infinity wrote:The reason people give away their own sovereignty as beings (which are already "righteous" without having to believe or do anything, u simply have to exist) to some man-made theological concept of needing a middle-man religious idol like Jesus (who was a teacher to set people free with higher understanding, not some blood sacrifice to appease some blood god), is because people actually believe the lie that they are "unrighteous" and will go to hell - based on some conscience issue - CAUSED by church people guilting each other - NOT CAUSED by breaking some religious rule.
You seem to have some knowledge on Christianity. I would like to know if there is actual proof or good evidence that Jesus Christ has lived. (Never looked into that, so sorry if this is RE 101^^) The reason I ask is this:
I watched a documentary 3 days ago. It was about Jesus not being a historical person that actually lived. One would come to this conclusion when crossreading the Gospels with the literature of Flavius Josephus.
And "that the jewish Messiah or Christ is none other than Flavius Vespasian and his dynastic family"
You can watch it here:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b1mw ... jesus_news
I just wanted to ask if you are familiar with that theory? I think it is worth going into (after learning latin)? What do you think?
Also there was a book recommendation on tap some weeks ago: Ralph Ellis ‘King Jesus’ trilogy
[...] I won’t spoil the drama for you by revealing what conclusions he comes to. For me it unravels whole volumes of wrong information rammed down our throats when we were kids, and finally gives me the key to the exit door as regards formal religion. That said I am meeting the true historical character called Jesus for the first time, who bears little resemblance to the one created in the Bible by Josephus Flavius. He’s a far more interesting figure than the near wimp we were told to slavishly follow by our (no doubt well meaning) elders and betters. For example, don’t yield unto Caesar what is Caesars. Make him fight for every penny! Jesus fought a war to try to obstruct Roman tax collectors operating in his small enclave. That’s just a taster. Jesus was a wealthy king, an educated gnostic, a scientist, and he wanted a very different world to the enslavement being brought to the world by Rome. We should go back to the world in those times, reconstruct our understanding of who people were, who we are now, where all these paedophiles and Satanists come from, and relaunch the human race free of all the hocus pocus Catholic crap that still holds people in awe near two thousand years later.
The plot gets even more fascinating in the second half of the book. Did Jesus visit England and live here in our pleasant mountains green? [...]
source: http://tapnewswire.com/2015/02/jesus-re ... verything/
little summary of Ralph Ellis ‘King Jesus’ trilogy)
Following on from Ralph Ellis’ King Jesus trilogy, which identifies the biblical Jesus from the historical record as King Manu of Edessa, and nothing even approaching a Christian – more a gnostic, a Jew and a warrior intent on winning power, driving out the Romans from Judaea. He nearly succeeded in his task, but was betrayed by Josephus Flavius, an enemy in his camp, who spied for Rome, and ended up in control of Judaea after the Jewish Revolt was brutally suppressed in AD 70 by Titus Aurelius Vespasian.
Manu was put up on the cross, but, as high Royalty with connections, was taken down and lived on until AD 98.
Josephus Flavius then concocted The New Testament, using his other nom-de-plume, St Paul, transporting the biblical story backwards in time to AD 33, and making Jesus a simple, poor though good man, propagating a ‘turn the other cheek’ religion, ideally suited to the needs of Rome’s empire, offering salvation to its adherents, and ignominy,defeat and death to those who stood in its way, people like the gnostics. Manu was imprisoned in the specially constructed jail in Chester along with his primary followers, while the victor in Judaea Vespasian went on to become Emperor of Rome.
Abgaros Basileus – King Abgaros – meaning King in exile, formerly King Phraataces of Persia, exiled to Edessa next to Judaea. The father of Manu, who became the biblical Jesus in the hands of historian/propagandist/spy Josephus Flavius/St Paul. The Edessan crown shows a line of thorns….The ‘coincidences’ build from there, until the deceptions become undeniable in the hands of historian Ralph Ellis in his King Jesus trilogy of 1500 pages.
[source: http://tapnewswire.com/2015/04/to-fight ... ment-37535
What do you think of that?
Back to topic:
I was confused when I read about the LM/SM war taking place in the 12th/13th century. I might have overread that in Daniels paper. So I have a question concerning this picture:
When i think of (ancient) Rome, I think of the two millenia before the 13th century. So I thought that, if there were dates in the picture, the line "SM/LM war" between Atlantis and Rome would be placed some centuries before Christ.
1200 seems so recent to me. Where did you get this date?
Have I understood that correctly that the gypsies' origin is Mars and they were the slaves to the Titans like we humans are slaves to the descendents of the Titans?
If I travelled to another planet with atmosphere, lived there and conciously do not want to go back to earth and my mortal body would cease to exist due to accident, would my reincarnation be on that planet or on earth?
I don't know much about ufology but the 'experts' in that field seem to have it all figured out
and categorized numerous different species. There were over 40 or 60 in the last list that I saw a year ago. Some of them with great detailed descriptions.
I haven't read through all the threads yet. Has anyone posted a good overview to all the Ts/ETs/EDs/humanoids and their origin/brief history on this forum?