UFO Rapture Endgame

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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by Djchrismac » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:14 pm

Lozion wrote:"This is very confusing as more and more data supports a possible Reptilian attempt to be under the guise of a friendly visit (ie: GFOL) ultimately to usher a new rule under their auspices and their Cabal supporters.

If the Council plans on showing itself at about the same time, there is a clear potential for humans to not understand who is right or wrong and end up supporting the wrong team or worse end up boarding Reptilian ships off Earth much like your stance that the Council will board humans on their biosphere to bring them to a new 3D planet. Same dialectic but from different sources. Any comments?"

I will post his answer if it comes.
That ties in with a lot of visions and information from Alien abductees that there is a choice to make like this coming up.
Lozion wrote:Here is Tolec's answer to my mail:

"...For the record, the people of the Andromeda Council, likely those from Procyon, would again - 'step up to the plate' - like they did in eliminating all of those Reptilian undersea bases.
I've noticed that the Strangesounds website hasn't posted since March although a few there are still recent reports of loud booms up to last month, maybe all the Underground bases are finally done for! :D
http://strangesoundsinthesky.com/
Lozion wrote:They would do so from a defensive posture {as in defending the people of the planet Earth} to take the necessary actions to prevent the fake human Reptilians... from taking over &/or taking political power... over any region of Earth.

If this is necessary, the people of the Andromeda Council will be successful again... and eliminate this Reptilian presence from Earth for good.

I can tell you this, if any of these scenarios I've just described happen, as I've already described before, it will all happen very, very fast. It - WILL NOT - be a long drawn out process.

The fake-human Reptilians, and their Reptilian leadership, will definitely show themselves for who they are. There will be no mistaking them, nor their agenda... simply because of the actions they will take. I would tell people, pay close attention to their actions... not their words."

So there you go DJchrismac, we can expect counter-measures in such a contingency.
Thanks for the update mate, I certainly hope so! Maybe it's coming up to that time when the Visitor's get booted off Earth and we get left in peace to evolve and get to know our LM neighbours who were here in the first place... ;)

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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by PHIon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:28 am

Lozion wrote: Was this directed at me? If yes I dont see how...
Just another take on the topic. That's all.

Dr. Greer is extending a warning that (I am paraphrasing) we should remember to look for a corporate logo on any possible ships from space.
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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by Lozion » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:07 pm

PHIon wrote:
Lozion wrote: Was this directed at me? If yes I dont see how...
Just another take on the topic. That's all.

Dr. Greer is extending a warning that (I am paraphrasing) we should remember to look for a corporate logo on any possible ships from space.

Oh I see, yes indeed. it is about usurpation. Playing the LIght card coming from the Dark.
Granted if Procyon can intervene then the better, but I'm just worried about collateral dommage, so to speak.
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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by Lozion » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:48 pm

Djchrismac wrote: Thanks for the update mate, I certainly hope so! Maybe it's coming up to that time when the Visitor's get booted off Earth and we get left in peace to evolve and get to know our LM neighbours who were here in the first place... ;)
Daniel thinks Tolec and the Andromeda Council are a type of Project Blue Beam fake landing hoax. I thought of the Tolec/Tanaath et al crew one that sounded credible for an eventual ET/Human collaboration but now that Daniel as seeded the doubt, I'm not so sure anymore. I have no interest in channeled material and am not very familiar with the Collier/Meier/other contactees material. What do you think DJchrismac? Any legit positive ET's involved with us at this conjunction? It seems to me they can't all be SM, Cabal or negative...
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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by Djchrismac » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:12 pm

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Djchrismac wrote: Thanks for the update mate, I certainly hope so! Maybe it's coming up to that time when the Visitor's get booted off Earth and we get left in peace to evolve and get to know our LM neighbours who were here in the first place... ;)
Daniel thinks Tolec and the Andromeda Council are a type of Project Blue Beam fake landing hoax. I thought of the Tolec/Tanaath et al crew one that sounded credible for an eventual ET/Human collaboration but now that Daniel as seeded the doubt, I'm not so sure anymore. I have no interest in channeled material and am not very familiar with the Collier/Meier/other contactees material. What do you think DJchrismac? Any legit positive ET's involved with us at this conjunction? It seems to me they can't all be SM, Cabal or negative...
I've read a lot of channeled material including Ramtha, Barbara Marciniak, Phoenix Journals and Cassiopean Transcripts and after a while I just got sick of it all sounding like too much of a soap opera. The book the Stargate Conspiracy was an eye opener so I started taking all channeled info with a pinch of salt until reading the Law of One which just felt right and tied in with the science of Dewey B. Larson which helped validate it for me.

I read up on Project Blue Beam tonight at http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectb ... ul05.shtml and it fits in with a lot of other info for me. Another eye opener was Karla Turner's books as they confirm the use of holographic technology and VR machines that can insert false memories or realities. I think we need to think and be really careful when it comes to the ET's.

There is every chance we are getting help but if so it's in a more subtle way or on a higher level. I think Daniel is right and we need to focus more on our own development so i'm starting small and trying to wake people up to Geoengineering while explaining RS Theory to anyone that will listen (which is helping me learn it). I'm getting surprised as more people pay attention to what's going on or I meet others who are quite clued up, it's easier to get people on board with the bigger reality by giving them a starting point before explaining what's happening with the UFO's, ET's, NWO agenda's, the weather, the Sun and so much more. People are usually quite sceptical of channeling anyway.

It's probably best to leave the things on a bigger scale to happen and just trust that the future will be good for us and we'll come through all this, we'll probably be the people our friends come to when the Sun darkens as we'll be the few calm people who can explain what's happening. Dive into the RS books on http://reciprocalsystem.org/ instead of listening to alien radio, although keep a finger on that pulse so you can see all the angles. Some new PDF's have recently been uploaded to add to my already hefty reading list... sweet!! :lol:

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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by infinity » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:36 am

When it comes to channeled material doing the prophecy thing (this 'thing' or that 'thing' is gonna happen sometime 'soon' or whenever) I generally think to myself; how is such 'prophecy' material useful exactly? Its almost never useful in any way, and almost always distracts us from actually spending our energy on something that does have some use. Even if there's any of it that might be true in any way.

But, when it comes to direct application (suggestion to try doing this or that and test if you get a better result with your question/issue/whatever), channeled info is usually useful. I tend to pay more attention to those kinds of channeling because its relevant to me immediately and testable.

Think about it. Any kind of relationship is based on credibility for it to have any value. Would highly advanced ET civilizations really be spending expensive time and resources and allocating much-needed trained interstellar craft / interdimensional craft crew to come and tell us crystal ball stories? I don't think so. I think they have better things to do with their time, resources, and people. Like uncovering secrets of the universe - as opposed to trying to win some kind of favor or faith from a selfish primitive warmongering race wiping out their own resources and ecosystems. Its a bit ridiculous.

However, if they are interested in building a real relationship with our race, because they have a real vested interest in such a relationship, they would build such a relationship by exchanging things of real value - which will build credibility. Like assisting us in real spiritual maturity to catch up to our technological progress before we destroy ourselves. Or sharing some knowledge that is valuable to us (like technology or cosmic geographics) that we can't hurt ourselves with (like healing tools or explaining the galactic energy pulses observed every few million years).

Just my two cents.

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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by Lozion » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:58 pm

Djchrismac wrote:
Lozion wrote:
Djchrismac wrote: Thanks for the update mate, I certainly hope so! Maybe it's coming up to that time when the Visitor's get booted off Earth and we get left in peace to evolve and get to know our LM neighbours who were here in the first place... ;)
Daniel thinks Tolec and the Andromeda Council are a type of Project Blue Beam fake landing hoax. I thought of the Tolec/Tanaath et al crew one that sounded credible for an eventual ET/Human collaboration but now that Daniel as seeded the doubt, I'm not so sure anymore. I have no interest in channeled material and am not very familiar with the Collier/Meier/other contactees material. What do you think DJchrismac? Any legit positive ET's involved with us at this conjunction? It seems to me they can't all be SM, Cabal or negative...
I've read a lot of channeled material including Ramtha, Barbara Marciniak, Phoenix Journals and Cassiopean Transcripts and after a while I just got sick of it all sounding like too much of a soap opera. The book the Stargate Conspiracy was an eye opener so I started taking all channeled info with a pinch of salt until reading the Law of One which just felt right and tied in with the science of Dewey B. Larson which helped validate it for me.

I read up on Project Blue Beam tonight at http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectb ... ul05.shtml and it fits in with a lot of other info for me. Another eye opener was Karla Turner's books as they confirm the use of holographic technology and VR machines that can insert false memories or realities. I think we need to think and be really careful when it comes to the ET's.

There is every chance we are getting help but if so it's in a more subtle way or on a higher level. I think Daniel is right and we need to focus more on our own development so i'm starting small and trying to wake people up to Geoengineering while explaining RS Theory to anyone that will listen (which is helping me learn it). I'm getting surprised as more people pay attention to what's going on or I meet others who are quite clued up, it's easier to get people on board with the bigger reality by giving them a starting point before explaining what's happening with the UFO's, ET's, NWO agenda's, the weather, the Sun and so much more. People are usually quite sceptical of channeling anyway.

It's probably best to leave the things on a bigger scale to happen and just trust that the future will be good for us and we'll come through all this, we'll probably be the people our friends come to when the Sun darkens as we'll be the few calm people who can explain what's happening. Dive into the RS books on http://reciprocalsystem.org/ instead of listening to alien radio, although keep a finger on that pulse so you can see all the angles. Some new PDF's have recently been uploaded to add to my already hefty reading list... sweet!! :lol:

Txs, agreed on most count Dj, I'll research Larson's material more for sure. I'll add that I'm not too concerned about a Blue Beam type take-over. I think the natural process of evolution cant be harnessed to impose a paradigm shift based on lie and deception. Truth always finds of way of shining through the muck and people's consciousness rising txs to said process contribute in having them lose those scales in front of the eyes, insuring a scenario as Monast describes ends in failure...
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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by Ilkka » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:20 am

infinity wrote:When it comes to channeled material doing the prophecy thing (this 'thing' or that 'thing' is gonna happen sometime 'soon' or whenever) I generally think to myself; how is such 'prophecy' material useful exactly? Its almost never useful in any way, and almost always distracts us from actually spending our energy on something that does have some use. Even if there's any of it that might be true in any way.

But, when it comes to direct application (suggestion to try doing this or that and test if you get a better result with your question/issue/whatever), channeled info is usually useful. I tend to pay more attention to those kinds of channeling because its relevant to me immediately and testable.
I know one channel that has bring some direct information to my attention, its "Bashar" by Darryl Anka. You can find bashar's videos from youtube this is one of my favourites http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-5kNsdivtc

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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by daniel » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:46 am

infinity wrote:However, if they are interested in building a real relationship with our race, because they have a real vested interest in such a relationship, they would build such a relationship by exchanging things of real value - which will build credibility. Like assisting us in real spiritual maturity to catch up to our technological progress before we destroy ourselves. Or sharing some knowledge that is valuable to us (like technology or cosmic geographics) that we can't hurt ourselves with (like healing tools or explaining the galactic energy pulses observed every few million years).

Just my two cents.
To add a nickel's worth of free advise, to those two cents... the peaceful explorers of the Universe do not need, nor want, slaves. They're not out exploring the universe for profit, but seek that "meaning of life" stuff, that Daniel Jackson of Stargate SG-1 popularized. Concepts like "problem solving" are tough for telepathic species, as they all tend to think of the same thing, at the same time. Humans, when they apply themselves, are excellent problem-solvers, and that is something the other species would seek out in us.

I know that the LMs had a lot of problems with their early Ark ships, as they would become stuck in gravitational nodes (the propulsion was totally ineffective), and they would have to abandon them. The solution for that problem came from us humans--our early, chemical rocket days. They now include rockets on their ships that push them free of the nodes. And they spent centuries trying to figure out a solution on their own.

We DO have "stuff" to offer, if we can just get out of that slave mindset.
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Re: UFO Rapture Endgame

Post by JohnConner » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:12 pm

It's like when the Asgard needed SG-1's help defeating the replicators because they were 'too advanced' to conceive of a weapon that used burning cordite to propel a metal object at a target.

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